Next-G car <span class="highlight">antenna</span>
Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 23:13
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GerryP
Hi all,
Can't get a straight answer from any of the Telstra shops... does anyone know for sure if they have a Next-G
phone available yet with cradle to take a hard wired external
antenna. Not interested in an induction or through the glass
antenna, I am looking for one where the
antenna cable plugs straight into the
phone via the cradle. I'd be very interested hear from anyone who actually has one.
Cheers
Gerry
Reply By: _gmd_pps - Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 23:25
Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 23:25
I don't know about phones but I use a Next G USB modem with a Maxon external 6db gain
antenna. And yes .. Telstra shops are pretty hopeless.
good luck
gmd
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Reply By: disco1942 - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 00:10
Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 00:10
There is a podcast of Tony Delroy's night life on Next-G in general but has a good segment on antennas near the end. The short answer to your question is no they do not have any models with direct connection - all the in car kits use a capacitively coupled antennas (not as good.) Forget what they said about timing but some models are now in the testing stage.
http://abc.net.au/nightlife/stories/TELSTRA_m1363451.Mp3
It is a very good listen about the progress with Next-G - worth downloading for further listening.
PeterD
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Follow Up By: hl - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 08:34
Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 08:34
Hi,
The Telstra 850/851
phone car kit definitely has proper external
antenna connection, not just a coupler. If you want maximum coverage out west, it is essential to have an external
antenna.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 10:27
Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 10:27
Granted the car kit has an
antenna hard wired to it. However there is no physical metallic connection between the
phone's RF circuitry and the
antenna circuit in the fixed car bit - it is capacitively coupled between the two.
Go to the link I posted and listen to the full podcast - Roger Bamber is a Telstra big wheel and he stated that they have no
phone model on sale yet that has a physical connection connection for an external
antenna. You will have to copy and past the the link, someone might be able to advise why it did not insert as a clickable link this time.
PeterD
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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 10:42
Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 10:42
Sorry - I goofed in that last one - the phones are inductively coupled, not capacitively coupled, still not directly coupled.
PeterD
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Follow Up By: hl - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 10:53
Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 10:53
Hi,
Not true, I OWN ONE. I can assure you there is a coax plug going INTO the
phone from the cradle.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 15:45
Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 15:45
Better let Telstra know then - they don't think any of the present models do.
PeterD
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Follow Up By: hl - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 16:51
Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 16:51
Yes.... that wouldn't be the first time that they don't know something.
By the way, that car kit is free with the
phone right now on the 30 buck plan.
It works very
well.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: lmkbm - Monday, Mar 19, 2007 at 13:13
Monday, Mar 19, 2007 at 13:13
i can't get that link to work? is it still active? i'd love to be able to hear it. TA
oh, and yes i copied and pasted it :)
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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 22:54
Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 22:54
lmkbm
Unfortunately you are a little late - Items on this link only last for a week after they are posted.
PeterD
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 00:52
Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 00:52
Gerry
I just got a Next G today , and I'm not going to worry about an External
Antenna, I believe that in the future the system will improve to a point where an
Antenna won't be needed , Also for the extra 15/20 Ks benefit and the 12 minutes it takes to them Ks I decided not worth the hassle, that's where voice mail comes in ,
Doug
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 16:20
Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 16:20
Doug, The
antenna will be an important feature for a long time and they are not expensive, if you don't need communications don't worry, if u do, get the
antenna and sit back and relax..!
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Reply By: Ozrover - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 10:13
Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 10:13
Hi Gerry.
I have the Telstra 850 next G
phone. I also got a tri-band external aerial ($154), which plugs into the back of the
phone via a patch lead ($24).
To make life easier I also got a Supertooth II hands free kit ($129) which works a treat.
So far I have had full coverage from C/town to Dubbo!
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Reply By: maxtd5def - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 11:55
Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 11:55
I've got the imate jasjam, & its got provision for the external aerial coupling.
Only carkit for it seems to be the System 8, & it seems to be an induction transfer.
But its really quite good, I had it hooked up to a broomstick high gain aerial. My country driving over regular routes showed as huge improvement over the previous carkit. Areas like Coonamble, Barradine
Gulargambone in central erst NSW.
I wouldn't get too hung up about the direct connection.
Regards
Max P
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 13:49
Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 13:49
I have the Jas Jam also and use 2 types of antennas for the boat and the 4WD, magnetic base and glass mount. I was blown away to get reception 120KM's off shore recently and the
antenna made the difference, not to mention the Next G service. Love the Jas Jam too...
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Reply By: Im.away - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 12:01
Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 12:01
I have the I-mate JAS/JAM. I use a bluetooth headset as a car kit and I've plugged the
antenna connection into my old CDMA external
antenna, they are compatible. It works fine and you don't have to buy an expensive car kit.
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Follow Up By: Member - Algee (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 17:54
Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 17:54
Im.away. I would be interested in your set up for my JasJam. Could you let me know where I get the bits to do what you have done. I would also like to run it in my boat as
well. Maybe send the info to algee1@bigpond.com
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Follow Up By: Im.away - Friday, Mar 16, 2007 at 20:16
Friday, Mar 16, 2007 at 20:16
No worries. I got the bluetoothe headset from my local telstra
shop. The
antenna is from a
shop that sells car audio and two-way stuff. The adapter I needed to go from the
antenna connector to the connector in the JAS/JAM was also available at the car audio place.
The
antenna needs no tuning, so you simply mount it somewhere practical. Mine is on the 'roo bar. The cable connects to the adapter lead, which in turn just fits neatly into the little
antenna connector hole in the back of the JAS/JAM. I usually just rest the
phone in the console. The bluetooth headset was simple to install. I just followed the rules that came with it and it works fine. We are going to add a second bluetooth earpiece for the missus to use.
That way, whoever is not driving can take or make the calls.
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 13:51
Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 13:51
Just curious, whats wrong with induction or through the glass
antenna, loss..??
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Follow Up By: Robin - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 16:33
Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 16:33
Hi Terra
You typical lose about 3/4 of the signal without a direct connection.
The way radio works though you never really notice this unless on the outer edges of coverage.
While direct connection is clearly best , most of the time you don't need it and if in a real emergency you would probably get better reception by standing on your cars roof etc.
Robin Miller
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Follow Up By: hl - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 17:09
Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 17:09
Robin, the way the
antenna is integrated into these handsets precludes them from working at their best. The old CDMA handsets with an extendable whip certainly worked
well if you did that, but I doubt that these new ones would.
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 15:30
Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 15:30
I have a LG TU 500 which has a physical metal to metal connection to the external
antenna. It is mounted in a genuine LG hads free car kit with speaker and microphone. I installed the kit myself, took me about 2 hours. OK I am a bit of a clutz with these things. Very careful 'cause I know how easy it is to stuff things up.
I got it when I transferred from Optus CDMA to Telstra,
phone free, connection free car kit $49.00
Duncs
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Reply By: 3F62 - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 16:05
Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 16:05
I got the LG TU500 Next G with the Genuine LG car kit running through a hard wired coaxial connection to my 5db "broomstick"
antenna from my CDMA big increase in coverage.......... shame the coverage from the LG out of the kit is about 75% of my old Nokia 6225.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: lmkbm - Monday, Mar 19, 2007 at 13:20
Monday, Mar 19, 2007 at 13:20
hi, i currently have using a 6225(with external
antenna), from what i'm hearing i'm not going to be able to get the same coverage with next g :(
have you heard anything about the nokia N95 just being released, it is meant to have inbuilt gps.
thanks
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Reply By: Member - Algee (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 18:06
Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 18:06
Try this www.wincom.com.au/EVDO.htm
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Friday, Mar 16, 2007 at 17:17
Friday, Mar 16, 2007 at 17:17
Thanks for that Algee.
Contacted company and they said the kit for the CD2195 is what I need for the Samsung A701 connected to Next-G.
Cost $230+gst+delivery$15.
They said no photo on site but that it is similar in looks to the CD1795 which is shown on site.
Pedro
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Saturday, Mar 17, 2007 at 11:13
Saturday, Mar 17, 2007 at 11:13
Telstra has only just released two NextG phones that have a direct lossless connection to the
antenna - Samsung and JasJam.
In typical Marketing style, this "feature" is not listed for these products. I got this info from a Mobiles specialist at Telstra display - he showed me the actual
antenna sockets.
Since I am not a contract at the moment, I'm going to have to pay the full price on a handset, so I'll be waiting until CDMA shuts down, before changing to NextG. By then there should be a few competitors selling NextG.
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Follow Up By: Robin - Saturday, Mar 17, 2007 at 15:14
Saturday, Mar 17, 2007 at 15:14
Really Mike - Why do they have to make it so hard ?
Robin Miller
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Follow Up By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Sunday, Mar 25, 2007 at 07:50
Sunday, Mar 25, 2007 at 07:50
what sort of competitors did you have in mind?
Telstra is the only one with NextG ... they are the ones importing the phones.
You should be able to get Telstra to switch you over to NextG including a new
phone if you were happy with a contract to allow them to give you a
phone.
You are a customer who bought their (CDMA) product that now doesn't work. Argue with them. Ask for the supervisor. Tell them it is a croca ...
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Saturday, Mar 17, 2007 at 11:16
Saturday, Mar 17, 2007 at 11:16
For travelling in remote areas, teh best
antenna is the RFI CD1795 - it works on NextG, CDMA and GSM.
It is 85cm long and is a black broomstick design.
Here is one place selling it for $96
Site Link
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Reply By: lmkbm - Monday, Mar 19, 2007 at 13:25
Monday, Mar 19, 2007 at 13:25
Site Link
um, maybe this link will work to the podcast about next g
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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 23:09
Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 23:09
Unfortunately you are a little late - Items on this link only last for a week after they are posted.
I have e-mailed to find if there is a copy in the archives somewhere.
PeterD
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